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    Dying without dignity? Americans get treatments they don't want, study finds.

    Americans suffer needless discomfort and undergo unwanted and costly care as they die, in part because of a medical system ruled by "perverse incentives" for aggressive care and not enough conversation about what people want, according to a report released Wednesday.

    Though people repeatedly stress a desire to die at home, free from pain, the opposite often happens, the Institute of Medicine found in its "Dying in America" report. Most people do not document their wishes on end-of-life care and even those who do face a medical system poorly suited to give them the death they want, the authors found.

    The result is breathing and feeding tubes, powerful drugs and other treatment that often fails to extend life and can make the final days more unpleasant. The report blamed a fee-for-service medical system in which "perverse incentives" exist for doctors and hospitals to choose the most aggressive care; inadequate training for those caring for the dying and physicians who default to life-saving treatment because they worry about liability.

    "It's not an intentional thing. It's a systemic problem," said David Walker, the former U.S. comptroller general, who co-chaired the committee that issued the "The fee-for-service model, the lack of coordination between medical and social services, the challenges that individuals face in finding a provider who's willing and knowledgeable to speak with them about death and dying all conspire against them coming up with the right individual plan," said Dr. Philip Pizzo, a co-chair with Walker.Advance directives including living wills have been unpopular and ineffective, the report said. It urged repeated conversations about patients' wishes beginning far earlier than many would think - perhaps as teenagers - and continuing the talks throughout life.

    The report praised programs in palliative care, which focuses on treating pain, minimizing side effects, coordinating care among doctors and ensuring concerns of patients and their families are addressed. This type of care has expanded rapidly in the past several decades and is now found in a majority of U.S. hospitals, but the report said many physicians have no training in it.

    In many ways, the report is a repudiation of the controversy created by the term "death panel" in response to the President Barack Obama's health care law. The claim centered on the government saving money by deciding who would live and who would die.

    In fact, the 500-page report authored by 21 experts said the very type of end-of-life care Americans say they want would shrink medical bills and reduce the governmental burden.

    "They will have a higher quality of life and it's very likely to be less expensive," said Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Oregon, a frequent voice on end-of-life issues who reviewed the report. "But the main key here is that we should be giving people what they want."

    Blumenauer has sponsored a bill to allow Medicare to pay doctors for having end-of-life conversations with patients, the very idea that set off the "death panel" fury, which generated the most widespread and high-profile conversations on end-of-life care in the U.S. since the case of Terri Schiavo. She was a brain-damaged Florida woman who became the center of a protracted court fight over having her feeding tube removed.



    -- WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. --

    My note:
    it's about time they're looking into this. What good is prolonging life if there's no quality of life to be had?
    I certainly don't want to helplessly waste away when my end is approaching. Many elderly ask only that they're pain-free, not prolonging life they can no longer participate in.
    I doubt that all states allow the end-of-life practices, but it certainly should be an option for any patient who reaches that point.
    How do you feel about this?
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  • #2
    This was very important to Gary and me. The week before he died he was in the hospital for pneumonia, released on Friday evening, but got weaker and weaker. Had I called for an ambulance, he would have been admitted, but for what? Tubes? Tests? Our insurance would have paid for whatever they wanted...I am just so thankful he was at home with me in quiet comfort.

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    • #3
      Quiet comfort. I like that, Paula.

      When my daughter's husband died several years ago, the Hospice people had just come to her house on a routine visit, and they decided he'd be more comfortable in a hospital type bed. They were in the process of setting one up in the living room and never did get it set up. He and DD were cuddled together on their own bed when he died. It turned out it was cozier and happier for the both of them, alone in their room. It was better for the both of them. He had lung cancer.
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      • #4
        Yesterday, while purchasing a piece of furniture which is very well constructed, the salesman asked E if he wanted the guarantee on it, which covers it from accidents for 5 years. E declined, saying that we wouldn't need their warranty as we had no plans to move, and his life expectancy is at best another 5 years. At that, the salesman got very flustered, saying to not say such a thing. E said to him that everyone has an end to life, and it doesn't upset him to face the realities, and with family history the probabilities were very close to 5 years.
        E does not want to push for length of life when you have to sacrifice the quality of life.

        With the same kind of probabilities, I have a decade to go. And I'm with him about quality of life. I will gladly take every good year left to me.
        I look at my elderly cousin, she just turned 90. She can barely get around without assistance, and it's very slow at best. She has a room in her GDs home, and all her worldly belongings are packed in there with her. She has a recliner for a bed, because she is unable to sleep in a bed. There is a path to her recliner from the door. They have put the beds of all 3 dogs in there (2 Dalmations and a Yorkie). Unfortunately, she is left alone a lot, and she can really use some company, even just a neighbor to check in on her. She has limited hospice assistance, just once a week. But she cannot go anywhere alone.
        I surely wouldn't want to feel as abandoned as much as I know she does. But she's fighting hard to hang in there. And I think her GD & family just don't want to be the one to find her when her life expires.

        So, it's time we remove all that has become clutter from our lives. Prepare to make our "things" as easy as possible on our kids when our time comes.
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        • #5
          We just talked with E's brother, who will be turning 85 during the holidays. He said, "That's how old Mother was, you know...." He seems to feel that his end will be coming within several months after that. Well, we'll see, won't we.
          My #1 Rule, is don't put limitations on anything. You just might mentally cause yourself that goal. Another attitude might give him the extra time he wants with his wife.

          My mom was 81. She did well enough with her help....and she didn't believe in going to doctors.
          I might surpass that despite my medical history. Then again, who knows? A lot can happen. I have been at death's door 3 times, and it was wide open enough to scare the doctors. My dad always said 3 strikes and you're OUT! (Whenever trouble reared its head.). However, I told them all I'm afraid I might have to live forever. Mother Nature keeps trying to throw me out, but God keeps throwing me back.

          We have to redo our wills, living wills, etc. Update everything. Be ready so it'll be easy going for the kids when we are gone.

          How many of you are already prepared?
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          • #6
            I turn 37 in February... hardly an age where someone would feel they need to be prepared for what may be to come... but I also work in what many would consider a high-risk profession, where the chances of being hit and/or killed by a passing motorist is considerably higher than the odds of most others who may experience a critical accident while at work. Because of this, I have to make sure that things are "ready", just in the event that something does happen.
            I have a will in place... though I got some strange looks while I was getting it prepared (apparently it is not common for a 30-something healthy male to get one of those done up), I have discussed with my fiancée (technically common-law wife now) what is to happen should I not make it home one night, and I have a list of emergency contacts both on my phone and firmly attached to the dashboard of my truck so that emergency services know who to contact if I am unable to tell them myself.
            I constantly have to listen to people tell me that I'm still too young to plan for this stuff, or that I am morbid to even consider it as a possibility... but in a profession where 35-45 are killed per year while on the job due to carelessness of others, not even beginning to count the number of injured... well, one has to have a plan in place, just in case. I guess it's just part of the job.

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            • #7
              Nice to see you here, Nightstorm!
              Most people don't seem to think this stuff needs to be done til they get older.
              Nor to they realize til late in life that they should have started a retirement account when they started working. They spend every dime because they used up all their savings on a car they wanted (not necessarily needed), and think they can't afford to put money aside after that. We told our kids not to count on us, because we aren't rich; and they should never count on something they don't already have. While we don't want to leave debts for the kids, we will have to take care of our needs first. And retirement means less income.

              You are smarter than most to get things in place early on.
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